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      Languages are by the man and for the man


      Languages are by the man and for the man


      It's a common and open fact that every language sounds and words are getting effect from local and forigen languages. But each language has its own style, word's culture, language speaking, listening and writing system, grammar, sentence requirements, the speaker's attitude, flexsibility in form of organs, its people's behaviour, needs of socity, the economic situation and the circle and social relations. These facts and many other references are most effective helper to invent new sounds and words with the help of imported words from other languages. If these sounds and words will follow the rules of that language then these words or sounds will have got room in that language or tounge otherwise they will not have space/place in that language. During this process something new take place in that language. For example:

      1 - In the westren languages can not be written in Roman characters with the za'ay Farsi (ژ).
      To resolve this matter, compound/substitute sounds j/g/y/ion will be used i.e. mijgaan/miya/mijda/television/decsion
      2 - Which language is governed other languages spoken words can be converted that
      the language sounds available from its own alphabet sounds rather than the
      original speech sounds. For ready reference please see these examples:
      (ذ , ز , ض, ظ (Arabic, Persian, Urdu, Punjabi Saraeki. Pothohari, Gojri etc.) reads:

      ذ ذکر zikr
      ذریعہ zaria
      ز ارزاں arzaan
      نماز namaz
      ض ضعیف zaeef
      عرض arz
      ظ ظالم zalim
      ظرف zarf
      kamisan (wife) camizn insted of camisan
      nozomi (Wish) nozomi, insted of nosomi
      oozora (Heaven) oozora insted of oosora
      3 - Where these sounds are not available there substitute sounds can be used.
      For reference check out these examples:

      ت تلوار talwaar
      تربوز tarbooz
      ڑ آڑو aaru/aadu
      ریڑی rairi/raidi
      4 - Words get associated with that language. See these examples:
      a. advice advice laina, advice karna, advice hona etc.
      bound bound karna, bound hona, bound nikalna etc.
      karna, hona, daina etc.
      b. vote votroon, votaan, votraan, votain etc.
      sport spotraan, spotoon, spotain etc.
      c. mintue mint'mar, research'mar

      5 - Sigular plural and sexual identity are lost:
      * word media is used sigular in Urdu, Punjabi saraeki, Gojra, Barahvi, Gujrati,
      Pothohari, Pakhto etc.
      * these words: hoor, ahwal, asami, oqaat are prural in Arabic but are used singular in
      many languages of the sub-continent.
      * Firdoos is a Persian word. It is fimine in Punjab, but oposist sex in Sarhad.

      6 - In the new language the words often fail to remain their meanings. ie. sex animal
      glass, jaloos, etc. have not used in their orignal meaning in Urdu, Punjabi etc.
      As these examples I can present here hundreds. These six examples are enough to demonstrate that words and sounds can not keep their forms and meanings in orignal in other languages. Like many other languages, English have taken hundreds of words and sounds from other languages. English words and sounds have not taken themself to remain in the orignal sounds, forms or meanings. After migration in this language we can not identify their oriban. If the new language to meet the sustitute sounds then what need to deliver through composed migirated sounds?!
      Hundreds words started by ch and provide sound kaaf (k). I think this is not fair because ch is composed at a time many sounds. For example:
      ch sh ش sheen shes s nietzoche cliche, Fitch, charade, chauvanism
      Khay ch خ kh Munch, Zelicha (qibti)
      Chay ch چ chest, chair, Chester
      ch kaaf K ک chemical kemi kl
      chemist ke mist
      chiasma ki az'ma
      chiasmus ki az'mas
      chimeric ka merik
      chlorophyl klo ra fil
      chrismal kriz'ml
      christ krist
      chrome krom
      chronic karonik
      chromite kromit
      chroma kroma
      These words get start by compound ch and are providing sound k. These words are almost came from the greek. Here my goal is depending on three things:

      1- English alphabet has its own registered alphabet letter k. What it need to start these words by ch. While this thing was decided that English is a language with its own identity. Because to start migrate words with their original style rules and linguistics established. The compound ch that give sound k (kaaf) canbe written by
      letter k.

      2- chrismal kriz'ml
      chiasmus ki az'mas
      reason rezan
      season seazan
      treason treazan
      prose proz
      rose roz
      pose poz
      nose noz
      hose hoz
      lose loz
      resume rezum
      resist rezist
      cosy cozi
      misery mizeri

      In many words sound s is giving sound z what need to write it with s why not with z? Many words are available in English, which are providing their orignal sound s (س-seen). Please see these words:

      Dose doz
      Loose looz
      Noose nooz
      Goose gooz
      3 - The third point is that some words end with e and this aditional e has no function in a word. For example look at these words:
      resume, Dose, loose, prose, pink, pose, nose, hose, lose, chromium, chromite
      I think after removing this extra e, no bad effect can be seen at any stage.

      Of course this argument can not easily diagest and a book written logic that are different from the language of the street. My opion is that this place to get all the writings in the books of the street and all the writings are on the road but not above or below ground. Literature is by the man and for the man. Languages are by the man and for the man.


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      Re: Languages are by the man and for the man

      V nice


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      Re: Languages are by the man and for the man

      thanka a lot for and response


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      Re: Languages are by the man and for the man

      Thanks for great sharing






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      Re: Languages are by the man and for the man

      shukarriya janab


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      Re: Languages are by the man and for the man

      lajawab sharing janab

      Kis Ki Kya Majal Thi Jo Koi Hum Ko Kharid Sakta Faraz,..Hum Tu Khud Hi Bik Gaye Kharidar DekhKe..?

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      Re: Languages are by the man and for the man

      bari bari meharbani janab


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